Ka-Bloomie Reviews

[Kim]

When I read the Boston Herald review the reviewer called Barbossa by his full name, Hector Barbossa and when I saw that I was like, so that's his first name. So when I heard Jack call him Hector I couldn't help but laugh. Also, I think the four people Jack was referring to that tried to kill him in the past was Will, Barbossa, Pintel and Ragetti and then he said, one of you succeeded, referring to Elizabeth. I might be wrong but I think that who he was referring to, Pintel and Ragetti. Remember in the first one in the cave when Barbossa told his men to kill Jack and this was the scene where Jack tries to remember the word, 'parlay', just thinking about that scene is giving me a good laugh.

Kim

[Maethoriel]

I had my second viewing last night. However, I wasn't able to come on and post more thoughts because I had company (BTW: $90 more to ticket sales because if my pirate party which was a blast.)

Here are some of my thoughts and opinions on the movie:

I love how some of you ladies have brought writer quotes explaining the "curse" and that Will was free from his service after those 10 years. My only sorrow is that it wasn't brought across clearly in the movie. I do recall the conversation between Tia and Jones where it is said that they would have been free to be together after his 10 years, but she wasn't there when he returned; but that was the only reference in the movie to that idea which was overshadowed by many other bits of information that were brought to light during that moment. If that is truly the way the rules of the curse were to work, they could have stood repeating a time or two more to be clear for the audience who won't see the writers comments on it. Aside from the unnecessary multiple Jacks, that is my only other complaint about this film as a whole. I would have liked leaving the theatre knowing for sure that Will and Elizabeth were to be together after those 10 years if that is the way it all worked.

I know a lot of people have mentioned not liking the many different story lines and the larger forcus on some of the more minor characters; but for me, it worked wonderfully. I simply loved the continuious guessing that went on throught the movie. The first time I saw it, I never had any clear idea of how everyone and everything was going to end up.Who was going to end up stabbing the heart in the end? Will or Jack? Who really was Calypso? Tia or Elizabeth? (remember Sao Feng was under the impression that it was her. He almost got me wondering for a little while there as well.) Who was going to betray who next? How was this whole movie going to resolve itself and its characters?

To me, the added story lines and focus added to the glorious, suspenseful, confusion of the whole movie; and I found myself on the edge of my seat just aching to know what the end result was really going to be.

Even if Will was pushed out of the focus from time to time, to me, he still managed to steal the show and shine beautifully in the movie; and the fact that he isn't always the most predominant character makes his fate at the end all the more of a shocker when it occurs. Orlando did things with this character that sent my head spinning. The range and depth and all those sides and battles he brought to Will were nothing short of amazing.

I loved the wedding scene even better the second time around. The whole thing was like a wonderful dance, and it was a much more appropriate way for Will and Elizabeth to be married then what they had planned their first try.

Jack's decision after Will was stabbed by Jones, and the way Johnny played it out was beautiful. I could see the battle that he was going through in his mind.the choice between what he wanted most and the chance to help someone who (though he would never admit it) had become a dear friend. I loved that shot of all three of them just after the heart was stabbed.perfect.

I'll admit I ended up crying yet again at the end of the battle scene and during the one day scene. Especially when Will shows the chest and tells Elizabeth "It has always belonged to you. Will you keep it safe for me?" That had me .

Orlando played every arc in this movie, and each new side was played with brillance; from the brig scene with Elizabeth, to the tea scene with Jones and Beckett, to the end on the Dutchman with his father and then on the beach with Elizabeth. Will was dark, deceptive, brave, tragic, haunting, longing, passionate, and so much more.

Kiera shined as well. Elizabeth (and Will) have come so far from who they were in CoTBP and become true Pirates in every sense of the word.

I think that is about it. I could go on about this one for hours (but I won't.) I have loved reading all the reactions, opinions, and thoughts from all you other ka-Bloomies. Seems this one is not so black and white for us in here.

I hope we all find our own good and bad (but mostly good) from this wonderful movie.

Oh, and my money shot in the whole thing had to be aboard the Dutchman when Bootstrap is telling Will that "she cannot follow" where they will be going. The close up shot of that longing in his eyes and that lovely lighting.to me that moment there made it all worth it . I would sit through two more hours of movie just for that.

One final question.Anyone else have "Hoist the Colors" stuck running through their head over and over again? I just can't get that song out! (Not that I really want to.)

Cheers mates. Happy Pirate viewing to all.

~Mae :pirate2:

[Ces]

It was Barbossa, Pintel, Ragetti and Elizabeth who tried to kill Jack, and Elizabeth who succeeded.

As for Hoist The Colours - it is a beautiful song and I too find myself singing it often - did you know that it was the writers who wrote those words? Who would have thought?

Regarding Will and Elizabeth's ending. First of all I wish that scene had been included before the credits. Second of all, it should have been made more clear. I don't know who did the final editing, but just because they know all the ins and outs of the curse does not mean they can assume the general public does!

Although, all that being said, I'm surprised most fans in the three times I've seen the movie seem to know that Will breaks the curse. One lady even said today, "look, the green flash and Will is free forever." Good for her!

Bit of trivia for y'all to watch for next time: When Jack goes for his effects and the chest, and the final scene with him, he's carrying the skull of his mother! :lmao:

Ces

[Christa]

When I read the Boston Herald review the reviewer called Barbossa by his full name, Hector Barbossa and when I saw that I was like, so that's his first name. So when I heard Jack call him Hector I couldn't help but laugh.

Okay, so I'm not crazy. Barbossa's first name is Hector. Check.

Also, I think the four people Jack was referring to that tried to kill him in the past was Will, Barbossa, Pintel and Ragetti and then he said, one of you succeeded, referring to Elizabeth.

Yep, that sounds good to me. I wasn't thinking of Pintel and Ragetti from the parley scene in 1.

It was Barbossa, Pintel, Ragetti and Elizabeth who tried to kill Jack, and Elizabeth who succeeded.

Yes, but what about Will? The whole swordfight in the blacksmith shop? He was trying to kill him then, not just capture him, right? He even says "I practice so that when I meet a pirate, I can kill it!" I think Kim's got it right. 4 tried to kill him, and one succeeded in killing him. 5 people altogether.

Christa

[SuzieKat]

I went to see it yesterday, but didn't post anything because I needed some "processing" time. Overall the film was a really rip-roaring good time. Orlando was just fabulous throughout. And those two shots, where he's first shown as Captain, and then when he comes back to Elizabeth . Jack the Monkey and Jack the Pirate had me in stitches, absolutely hillarious. And I really liked the character of Sao Feng (don't know if I spelled that right). Wish they hadn't gotten rid of him so quickly. Now a complaint. Like a lot of you, I found the giant Calypso pretty lame. I really liked the back-story between her and Davey Jones, but they could have done a much better job of the whole release thing. I really do want to see it again, because like all of you I'm sure I'll catch more and more with each viewing. It really is a movie that requires multiple viewings. And what a chore it will be having to see Will again . And I can really see an opening for a 4th film (please, please). Jack is going after the Fountain of Youth. Now, what if it picked up at the point 10 years later when Will comes back. I'm not sure if the curse will be broken and he can stay for good this time or not. But either Will and Elizabeth, or maybe just Elizabeth, can go hunting for Jack who has been searching for the Fountain these ten years. If they found the fountain, Elizabeth could be immortal too and she and Will could be together forever. Remember, I believe it was Jack, said "There's more than one way to become immortal"? Ok, rambling over.

[alisonelaine]

I, too, loved Jack's reaction when Will was stabbed.In all the films, when it came to the crunch, Jack always did the right thing.

I also noticed something else during my third viewing.When the boat is flipped and everyone is hanging on for dear life who is it that loses their grip and leaves the crew(momentarily)---Will.Remember that in DMC Tia Dalma told Will that "There is a touch of destiny" about him.She knew that he would leave one way or another.

I thought that Jack's Davy Jones locker imprisonment went on a little too long but my sister laughed at that the most! I did love the descent of the Pearl on the sand dune--what a visual feast that was.

I'm definitely going to see the movie a fourth time.

[LovesHerJeep]

Well, I really can't add anything to all of your fabulous reviews that hasn't been said. I am sad that this is probably the end. I laughed and sighed and gasped throughout and thought the giant Calypso was a bit much, but understood why she was so angry.

As for not letting any child under 10 see the movie, I think it depends on parent & child. There was no way I was going and not taking my 8 & 1/2 year old. He would have died.devastated. He was up & down to the bathroom much too often, but, that's partly my fault as I didn't realize he'd sucked down half the Coke we were sharing in about 5 minutes. We discussed the movie and he had no questions and understood it on his own level.He knew what happened and who did what. He was fine with that. We did talk about the hangings and all. He understands the difference between fact & fiction and thought the movie was awesome!

I don't really think there is anymore violence in AWE than was in any of the LOTR films. (He watched them as a much smaller child and loved them.) This, though, is the child who begged, begged me to buy him a sword. He loves a sword fight.

Dad & I loved it. We talked about it until nearly midnight. He kept getting turned around about who did what, but I straightened him out & all was well. He wants to see it again too!

Bottom line: Loved it; wanna see it again; Captain Turner is the man.

Jeep

[alisonelaine]

One reviewer in one of the British tabloids said that AWE confused him a little but his 8yr old son straightened him out on who was dead, whose heart was in the chest, etc.I thought that was funny

Also, another thought came to me today--what if Tia Dalma didn't meet up with Davy Jones after 10yrs because she was with Jack? Is that possible or has it already been mentioned? I'm sure someone knows!

[Anar]

Okay, so I'm not crazy. Barbossa's first name is Hector. Check.

Of course you are not crazy Christa. I first noticed the name Hector while shopping online at Big Bad Toy Store a few months ago. Now I know this is not a review, but I had the impression they would make a big deal about Barbossa's necklace, since they are selling it. During the movie I expected it to be his piece of eight.

I saw the movie a second time with my parents. The movie left my Mom feeling rather upset. I really enjoyed it, but she felt it was so depressing. She's a Jack fan but she turned to Will in the end. I guess his story has her heart as well. Only Orlando can manage that!

Anar

[Ces]

I don't think Jack took Will too seriously in COTBP when he said he wanted to kill pirates. I still think it was Pintel, Ragetti, Barbossa and Elizabeth, but what fun we have discussing the finer points of the films!

Here's another clue someone pointed out to me that proof the curse is broken: Will returns at sunset. If it were the one day, he would come back at sunrise.

Ces

[LadyNin]

I’m back after my second “sailing” this morning, with hubby along (who loved it and wants to go back – an utter rarity for him!) I’ve been trying to find a succinct way to explain the curse stuff that is such a point of confusion. I appreciate your indulgence in letting me meander here, as I love the discussing almost as much as the films and I don’t know when we’ll get to do it again. I had so many "oh yeah!" moments, as Geri mentioned, and carefully watched some stuff only to get lost again in other parts . I love how like a giant jigsaw puzzle this tale is! One with 1000 pieces, for sure.

The trick in understanding this seems to be having a good definition of what the curses actually are. What’s not clear in the film as it stands is that the Captain’s curse can be broken if he finds a love that’s true. We are left to gather clues and deduce this from the dialog that’s scattered all through the movie. That and the placement of Will's final scene after the credits are the most troublesome part and I can't help but wonder if it will leave some viewers (who are less devoted than we are) not liking the film or disappointed by it. Could even affect ticket sales to marginal fans in the long run, but I'm not really desperately worried about that - it's Disney's problem :P.

Anyway, I listened very carefully the second time I saw it and I’m still piecing it together in a way that can be explained. Let me have a go.

The duty that binds the Captain of the Dutchman is that he must be responsible for ferrying the souls of those who die at sea to the other world. He himself is bound to the ship with only one day on land every ten years – we know that part from DMC and it's reiterated in AWE. BUT! - A true love there to meet him would release the Dutchman’s captain from the spell and free him to return and live a normal mortal life again, on land. (That’s the part that is left unclear!)

I don’t recall how he got himself into the predicament to begin with, but what happened to Davy is that when he returned after serving his first 10 years, his lover Calypso/Tia Dalma – “as changing, and harsh, and untamable as the sea” – was not there to meet him. He did not have a love that was true. (She may well have been with Jack for a bit, as was suggested by all that "knowing" dialog in DMC. :oh: ) So DJ was not released from the spell, and was sent back to the Dutchman with no reprieve. He was so heartbroken that he cut out his heart and put it in a box.

The writers have said that “Also missing from the final cut is Jones' statement that when he cut out his heart, *he* put a geis on it, that if someone killed his heart, their heart must take its place.” (It was Davy who decided that whoever killed his heart – and thus killed/released him? – would be the next Captain of the FD.)

Then we learn that he was so distressed by his failed love, that in his anger he abandoned his duty to ferry the dead souls, leaving them to float forsaken in the sea … it was a result of this wrongdoing that he turned into the monstrous squid-creature. Perhaps then that he adopted and trained his “pet” - the Kracken - to be such an unholy terror on the seas and established his Locker as a place of eternal torment?

It’s known that whoever kills Davy’s heart will become Captain of the FD - that’s why Jack wanted it to be him . for his eternal freedom. When it was Will instead, he became the next captain who would live and not die – but be enslaved to the Dutchman and its duty. Because Will’s nature is honorable and true, he would take up the ferrying task and fulfill the responsibility. He would never become such a monster and this also released all the crew of the FD from their fishy, encrusted state. Will had Elizabeth's love and only had to serve the 10 years on the Dutchman before coming back to see if she would be true to him. When she was, and he came back from the netherworld with the green flash at sunrise – or set, whichever it was - the curse/spell/bondage was broken and he returned to her and their son to live the rest of his life (one hopes happily ever after).

The bit about Will’s heart … still not clear on that. Davy continued to “live” without his until someone did the “stab and take over” thing. Perhaps as long as Elizabeth safeguards the box with Will’s heart he will be safe and free to live with her . the Dutchman’s next captain to be determined by some other means we don’t know of. Or perhaps because it was Davy who put that gies on the heart, the requirement died with him.

Sigh. Well that’s where I am at this point … after 2 viewings and a lot of pondering. Anybody have more theories?

Oh, and I did notice that it was just Jack whose hand was over Will's . Elizabeth had her arms around Will as he lay dying and wasn't anywhere near his hand with the dagger. So Jack gets full credit for that act.

[Ces]

That about sums it up!

Ces

[shemilie]

I've just come home from my first viewing. I will be seeing this movie more than once. What a ride! I'm still a little gobsmacked with Will Turner. Orlando was fantastic in this film just like everyone else but Will Turner was brutally hot!

I'm completely gobsmacked! I may be back later when I can form a coherent sentence but for now.just.WOW!

[Annabelle]

Was anybody else besides me happy to see the dog again? :cheer: I loved it when he was called in with the keys by Jack's father (Keith Richards) during the meeting in Shipwreck Cove ! And when someone asked how he got there, the answer was "sea turtles". So funny ! I was worried about him after the ending of DMC.

I loved this movie. If you break it down into the beautiful allegory of Will's destiny, it resembled Greek mythology. Lovers torn apart by persons/objects beyond their control, with the spell of doom hanging over them, death claiming one of them, only to have their true hearts win out over death and gain for them everlasting love.

I only wish more of their story could have been developed, instead of being pushed to the background, and then tagged on to the end as an afterthought. Their story had the makings of a great romantic movie. AWE is good, and will be a success -- but I think it could have been so much better.

[Kim]

I don't think Jack took Will too seriously in COTBP when he said he wanted to kill pirates. I still think it was Pintel, Ragetti, Barbossa and Elizabeth, but what fun we have discussing the finer points of the films!

Ces

Jack might not have taken Will too seriously in COTBP in that swordfight but lets not forget the three-way swordfight between Will, Jack & Norrington in DMC! And I agree it is fun to discuss these films and I am sad to see them end. Especially not getting to see Orlando & Johnny working together again, I really enjoyed seeing them together as Will & Jack.

Kim

[Kit-Kat]

Wow, it so nice to read everyone's feelings on this whole movie and it sounds like all of us liked it. I am glad that T&T cleared up taht ending scene. I am glad Will is coming back for good and it seems to make sense now that I think about it and remember the clues to that. I am probably going to see the movie again tomorrow or sometime this week. It ahs been on my mind all weekend and I can't get Hoist the Colors out of my head.

Anyways, I can't wait to read more thoughts on this and I can't wait to see the movie a second time so I can see what I missed and talk about that and also maybe get some new insight on some scenes.

~Kit-Kat~

[teagal]

I don't have anything new to add to the wonderful comments that already been expressed (and eloquently so), but as I'm still processing everything, I just wanted to throw in a couple brief thoughts. Overall, I thought it was amazing! As others mentioned, I did not care for the hanging of the young boy at the beginning or the way in which Calypso was released. Those points aside, the acting, cinematography, the fight sequences, music, and visual effects were outstanding.

Indeed, it was Will's story from beginning to end.he truly shined. Orlando's performance was brilliant. What an emotional ride. There were so many scenes that will stay etched in my memory. I was stunned by Will's death.but what an amazing job Orlando did. The wedding/kiss was marvelous! The tea cup scene. Will and Bootstrap on the Flying Dutchman. And the Beach.I went from to when Will handed her the chest and said that his heart had always belonged to her.

Was anybody else besides me happy to see the dog again? :cheer:

Most definitely! I missed poochie. And I have to give a shout out to Jack the Monkey and the Parrot. They rocked.

Many thanks for all of the clarifications, particularly of the post-credits scene. I too had left the theater with a heavy heart thinking that Will was only returning to them for one day. My heart feels much happier now. And that last shot of Will on the Dutchman.Wow! It's a shame that it was not included before the credits. Bring on the screencaps!

To sum it up, I loved it. I laughed, cried, clapped, and sighed.and I can't wait to see it again. Sigh.I'm going to miss Captain Will Turner.

Susan

[Buttercup]

Annabelle! I was happy to see the dog too. My niece will be estatic. She worried about him.

I'm back from viewing #2. My mother made me take her back. She needed to watch it when she already knew the ending so she could enjoy it. She still won't watch Will's demise.

Taking all the points and arguments and reviews into consideration, I LOVE THIS MOVIE! I laugh, I cry. I may see it as much as my 9 viewings of FOTR.

I admit, I had to buy the Will pillow at the Disney store to console myself and a few hats. There's so much foreshadowing at the begining of the trip to save Jack where the others are talking about the legend of Davey Jones and the camera is on Will or Will and Tia Dalma. She tells him again when they mention that stabbing the heart means you take the place of DJ forever, "A touch of destiny." (Nin don't :bat: me.) You see Will mulling over his fate. I think that's why he asks Elizabeth to marry him in the heat of battle. To him, it's his last chance. Tia Dalma also tells him something about how to get what you want you have to pay a great price.

I love him in the tea scene as he learns about Davey Jones's betrayal and as he makes them think he's painted himself into a corner and then produces the compass. Awesome!

I think the people who don't like Orlando's performances in movies don't watch his eyes. Everything plays in his eyes. Like Viggo. Johnny does it too it's just with Captain Jack, his body is often doing one thing and his eyes are telling the real story. So, I think the reviewers follow the obvious and not the nuances. They aren't there for the joy of the experience and to emerse themselves in other worlds. It's their job. They need to write something witty.

Okay, I'm done.

Oh, and I thought every shot of Legolas was a money shot.

Really done this time.

[shemilie]

OK, kids.I'm off for my second viewing. Twice in one day!

I can't help it! I'm absolutely smitten!

[McJules]

I had to come back to say LadyNin, I loved your summary of the whole captain of the FD, stab the heart, don't stab the heart, the Dutchman must have a living heart etc. My first reaction was "by jove I think she's got it." That's the first time I think I've read that explained so comprehensively I could follow it and not get lost. Thank you. The only thing that doesn't take into account is Davy's betrayal of Calypso and his teaching the first Brethren Court how to imprisoner her in her bones.

Which reminds me that I read either at Keeptothecode.com or T&T's site, if you listen to the words of Hoist the Colours it says the "The King and his men stole the Queen from her bed and bound her in her bones. The seas be ours and by the powers, where we will we roam." I loved that T&T wrote the lyrics!

Again, I want to say how much I appreciate everyone's comments.

I think the people who don't like Orlando's performances in movies don't watch his eyes. Everything plays in his eyes.

Buttercup I couldn't agree more!

TF, I agree that Will's death scene should've been more. I don't recall if I read it here or elsewhere, a comment that Elizabeth should've told Will she loved him in that moment since she never actually says it any place else. Does she? I can't remember off hand but I don't think she does. Then again, if they weren't viewing this as a love story then it wouldn't occur to anyone to put it in. My heart still aches when I hear their theme music play. It's so powerful. In fact, all the music is fantastic.

shemilie, good luck! I did 2 shows back-to-back and I loved it.

[Maethoriel]

My heart still aches when I hear their theme music play. It's so powerful. In fact, all the music is fantastic.

I adore both of the love themes in this movie. I've always loved the Tia/Jones theme with the music box locket song, and now with the Will/Elizabeth theme.it's another tune from the movie that is running through my head over and over along with "Hoist the Colors." Then, when they interwove both songs together. beautiful. I can't wait to have the money for the soundtrack.

[Sherwood]

I took my roommate to AWE today and was surprised to see the crowd that was there for a 10 a.m. show. I was able to scrutinize the movie a bit more closely - paying closer attention to certain aspects. I did notice a lot more references and nods to the earlier movies this time around. I came a bit more prepared this time, too - with tissues in hand.

The cinematography really caught my eye this time. I really love that shot of the ship surrounded by stars. So beautiful.

I must admit, though, that there is a lot of subtext that must be read. The audience has to fill in a few holes. I am happy to have found a place like Ka-Bloom to help me sort out the different plot points.

That said, there were a few things I am still disappointed in:

- I miss the banter between Will and Jack in this movie. That was one of my favorite aspects in the last two films.

- We never did hear the backstory between Beckett and Jack.

- There wasn't enough development and resolution in the whole Jack-Elizabeth-Will love triangle. I think that too much is taken for granted in that aspect.

I am sad to see them end. Especially not getting to see Orlando & Johnny working together again, I really enjoyed seeing them together as Will & Jack.

Despite my misgivings, there is one thing that continues to hit me hardest. All of the charcters seem like old friends and I am going to miss them.

[Adrianne]

OK, kids.I'm off for my second viewing. Twice in one day!

I can't help it! I'm absolutely smitten!

shemilie, I know exactly how you feel. I fell madly in love with Will all over again.

Nin, thanks for your beautifully written explanation of Will and the Captain's curse.

[Krissy]

I'm so glad I didn't see this film "cold". I don't think I'm excessively dense, but if I hadn't known going in what was going to happen to Will; if Sherwood and Lady Nin had not brought us the links that spelled out the writer's intentions, I would have been totally devastated because I never would have been able to put the "clues" and omitted critical details together. Even knowing what was going on, after my first viewing I was numb. It wasn't until I had a chance to digest things and do a bit more digging into the workings of the curses (there were several different curses at work) that I was able to react.

I love what was there. I didn't mind the many story lines weaving in and out of each other. I didn't mind the multi-Jack's or giant Calypso. I didn't mind the time given to minor characters. The comic relief is very necessary, and if those other story lines had NOT been wrapped up, we'd all be here complaining about it. But I miss what wasn't there, and I think it's a crime that Will's return was stuck on after the credits where more than half of the audience will never see it. Those people are going to spread the word of disappointment and dissatisfaction, and they may not even know why they feel that way. That scene belongs in the body of the film, with a more detailed explanation, in order to complete the story. The monkey and the dog snippets at the end of the first two films were just fun & games; not intrinsic to the main story; certainly not on the level of what happens to Elizabeth and Will. Putting it outside the main narrative marginalizes them when they are the heart and soul of the story. I love Jack and the other characters, but without Will and Elizabeth driving the plot it's just a silly tall tale. Their love and the obstacles they have to overcome to be together make us CARE. How can you love a film when the payoff is withheld? And putting it after the credits without advertising up front that it's there is HIDING it from the mainstream audience. That's just wrong. I hope that everyone who knew enough to stay for that scene will spread the word to as many people as possible so that the experience isn't unnecessarily ruined for the average movie watcher, and so the "critics" won't seem to be proved right.

I don't blame the writers. They had the meat in there, but as usual, had to defer to others over what went into the final cut. Ted & Terry are incredible writers who can juggle the myriad story lines and make them mesh without losing sight of the core of their story. It's too bad the accountants don't understand that and trust them.

I still love the movie and I'll still see it multiple times and buy the DVD. My disappointment is with whoever decided to feed the mistaken impression that Will is not the heart of this Trilogy.

Krissy

[LadyNin]

...There's so much foreshadowing at the begining of the trip to save Jack where the others are talking about the legend of Davey Jones and the camera is on Will or Will and Tia Dalma. She tells him again when they mention that stabbing the heart means you take the place of DJ forever, "A touch of destiny." (Nin don't :bat: me.) You see Will mulling over his fate. I think that's why he asks Elizabeth to marry him in the heat of battle. To him, it's his last chance. Tia Dalma also tells him something about how to get what you want you have to pay a great price.

No worries, Buttercup, I agree with you! It was when Gov. Swann was passing in his little boat and explaining about the chest and the COTFD's curse that Tia made that pointed remark to Will and that's when it suddenly dawned on me that Will's destiny was to be that captain. And yes, in the midst of that battle ballet, he tells her "it may be the only time" they will have to marry. The clues are there for the taking, but it isn't until you've seen the whole tale unfold that their meaning becomes clear. (They designed this film to be a see-again one . not that any of us are complaining too much!)

And to be honest, even if all this curse-manipulating were bogus - and although it's tragic and heart-rending - I'd still be okay with Will not being back for good. It's the stuff of many great myths and legends (not to mention truth) that women are left with the sons of their men who go off to fulfill a duty. Sometimes only the love remains. Alas.

Whatever the end to his tale, Will Turner may have become my favorite character of Orlando's. What a hero!

By the way . does anyone have the soundtrack? Is Hoist the Colors on it with the words?